By Jueseppi B.
I understand that some wealthy caucasian woman not being allowed to be a member of some old all caucasian males golf club means absolutely nothing to the average everyday woman. I comprehend since it does not concern the run of the mill woman and her everyday issues of being a woman, that it is not important. I get that if the issue does not hit close to home, then you don’t have the time or effort to be involved.
Actually, NO I don’t understand, comprehend or get it.
What some women are telling me about the Augusta National Golf Club not allowing women members in 2012:
1). From a women:
“I guess I’m failing to see how wealthy women are an oppressed group in this country. When Black applicants wanted to gain membership, that to me was different, because there’s a history of oppression against people of color (and not just a history, but a current atmosphere of racial oppression in some places). Rich female Americans don’t have much in the way of exclusions or limitations to deal with in any regard, other than maybe joining this particular golf club, and this is not an obstacle they have been fighting to overcome in the way that Black applicants would have done.
As far as discrimination, yes, the Augusta policy is sexual discrimination and it is wrong. I wouldn’t ever say it’s right (I did say it was repulsive, and that is how I feel). But I believe it’s comparing apples and oranges to say that the women who are being denied membership there are in some way in the same boat as others who are excluded from housing, or jobs, or equal pay, or an education based on their race or gender. There are degrees of injustice, and this doesn’t rank all that high on my personal scale of wrongdoing, simply because I can’t see it affecting the upward mobility, financial stability, or future opportunities of anyone who is being left out of that particular golf club.
My feeling is not so much dismissal of the issue, as it is a lack of real outrage about it compared to things that I think are more important. My level of reaction is similar to the president’s: I personally believe it’s wrong, I would personally say it should be changed, but that’s about it. If the wealthy women of America got up in arms about it, and started a MoveOn.org petition because they were really, really feeling underserved by the policies of the Augusta National, then I’d sign it. But am I gonna get overly worked up about the injustice of it? Not really, to be honest.”
2). From a woman:
“But a filthy-rich female teeing it up as a member at one of the world’s most exclusive clubs? Sorry, I won’t ever be able to look at her as Susan B. Anthony holding a TaylorMade.”
“That’s pretty much the main point, I think. If Augusta were to suddenly decide that admitting female members was OK, what damn difference would it make? The only people who might be affected, as far as I can see, are some very wealthy women who really aren’t being denied a great deal in their lives, aside from membership in a club full of old men. I think IBM should tell Augusta’s board where to get off, since they want to hold out one hand for money and hold up the other hand to stop the CEO from joining their club. Other than that, as repulsive as their mindset is, it isn’t something that really matters one way or the other in the real world.”
3). From a woman:
“You know, I’m going to be honest…. I think it should be left as it is – and you know me. Very pro-women’s rights. Just as women need their female-only activities and social groups, same with children, so do men. Personally, I have no interest in going in and shaking this tree. I wouldn’t be welcome, especially because I would have used the law in order to be present, etc. I saw let the boys have their time together. And as far as women in the Masters… there is a physical difference between the two. It is a rare woman who can drive a ball like a man on the course. It just wouldn’t be properly competitive. And on the flip side, what if a man wanted to enter into women’s golf – fair is fair, right? The men would have a greater advantage to win because they can drive the ball further.’
“Sometimes, there is nothing wrong with men and women being separated. I say leave it as it is.”
4). From a woman:
“Plus, a bit of thinking ahead here and tactical maneuvering…. there are many other more important women’s issues we need to focus on. Attacking this bee hive is only going to enrage a lot of men who I would rather have on our side for other issues of a greater priority.”
5). From a woman:
“I don’t see the big deal. I’m pretty sure if they ever got the opportunity to play, some other sexist lawsuit would follow. Guys want to be guys and they can’t altogether do that with women hanging around snooping in everything.”
I am just not understanding this attitude coming from women. This War On Women can not and should not be divided into separate issues based on what we think or assume is important and what we think or assume is not important. Discrimination and oppression against women, in ALL respects, is the issue.
Just a few short years ago, after Tiger Woods won his first Masters Green Jacket at Augusta National Golf Club, Black men were not allowed a membership in this then all caucasian male country club. When the public was made aware of this tradition, to exclude anyone not white/caucasian and male, and the irony that Tiger Woods, a non white/caucasian male, had won the trophy (The Green Jacket) as the very first Black male…Augusta National officials ran out like fools running from South African killer bees, to locate an 80 plus year old Black man to induct as the first black man to have a coveted Augusta National Golf Club membership.
It has been tradition for the CEO of all major sponsors to automatically be granted a membership into the Augusta National Golf Club as a “perk” of sponsorship. Now comes the new IBM CEO, Virginia Rometty, a woman.
Augusta National Golf Club has decided to change this tradition of offering a membership to it’s corporate sponsor of IBM because she has a vagina.
Now I ask you this, why was it a priority to scrounge around to locate a Black man to become it’s first Black member immediately after Tiger won his first Masters, but it ain’t important to repeat that first, now that a Woman has smashed the glass ceiling of corporate executive-hood?
The argument that Blacks have been oppressed far longer than Women is a lie, incorrect and an error in knowledge. Women have been oppressed and discriminated against since before the days of cavemen discovering fire. Oppression and discrimination are oppressive and discriminatory no matter how big or small. It is wrong.
To assume Women are not intelligent or talented enough human beings to handle all the cases of oppression and discrimination based on gender, is asinine. Women are capable of dealing with everything that is a War On Women, including a group of caucasian men telling them that they are “NOT ALLOWED”.
I wonder, if a Woman was told she could not become President of anything, based on her NOT having a penis, or if a Woman was told she could not become an astronaut based on her gender, would other Women argue that it was not important because the average everyday female can’t become President or become an astronaut anyway?
It never was about the effect of the discrimination or oppression on the sheer number of Women. It has always been about the disrespect, the second class citizenship status and the absolutely clear ignorance toward Women as equal human being. Not many Women in America will ever become CEO of IBM, but telling just one Woman she can not become a CEO of IBM because she has a vagina is not acceptable.
Not being concerned that just one Woman is not allowed to become a member of Augusta National Golf Club, wealthy or not, because she does not have a penis is as unacceptable to me as telling a Black man he can not ride in the front of the bus. Based on his skin color. If you don’t ride a bus, should you still have been out on the front lines protesting that discrimination?
Wake Up American Women. Oppression & Discrimination to any woman on any level should be unacceptable.
Related articles
- Mitt Romney on Augusta National women ban: ‘Of course I’d have women in Augusta’ (offthebench.nbcsports.com)
- For IBM CEO, is golf’s sexism on par with the tech world’s? (news.cnet.com)
- President Obama issues a call for Augusta National to become a public golf course! (politicsandfinance.blogspot.com)
- Masters golf: 12 women candidates for Augusta National membership (csmonitor.com)
- CNN Contributor Erick Erickson: ‘I Kind Of Like The Idea That Women Aren’t Members Of The Masters’ (thinkprogress.org)
- Time For Augusta National To Enter the 21st Century (worldmediatrend.wordpress.com)
- Here’s Why Augusta National Doesn’t Give A Damn If You Think It’s Sexist (businessinsider.com)
- Republican men standing up for women’s rights … to play golf at Augusta (except John Boehner) (dailykos.com)
- Questions on golf club’s all-male members (newsday.com)
- Should Augusta Golf Club Admit its First Female Member? (abcnews.go.com)
- Augusta’s no-women policy raised (bbc.co.uk)
- NYT Female Golf Writer Admonished For Voicing Opposition To Augusta National’s Gender Discrimination Policy (thinkprogress.org)
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Yeah, this one gets the “Siddown Clown” award. The fact that these women have the luxury to pick this issue is repulsive. Must be nice! The last place I want to be is in an old-boy’s network of ball putters or scratchers. There are so many other places for women to garner access, visibility, or show solidarity on the subject of real women’s issues.
You don’t get to pick and choose. Women’s issues are whats important, even wealthy caucasian women. You don’t fight against racism/discrimination for poor Black people and ignore racism/discrimination against wealthy black people. Thats stupid.
You have hit more than one nail on the head! I agree with you wholeheartedly! We may have some differences in opinion on some things(or I just am not very clear with some of my points) but for the most I am on the same page as you and love to read your blog! Keep up the great work!
JLK2004, I appreciate your words of support, and you don’t have to agree with me on everything, nobody ever does. But we use our common sense to reach a common ground. I have found that most issues are close in understanding among those who follow this blog. I do get the occasional knuckleheads who attempt to use this blog’s comments section as a place to be stupid, and their comments go straight to trash.
I am honored JLK2004 that you are reading me, thank you and enjoy a fun and joyous Easter Weekend.
As the woman who contributed the first two comments you’re quoting in this post, I’ll comment again to say that I stand by every word of them. To me, saying that the Augusta policy is “oppression” against women just doesn’t seem accurate. Yes, I agree with you that it is discriminatory, as I said. And as I also said, I agree that discrimination is wrong. But the fact that I don’t think it’s as outrageous as other, more consequential and pervasive forms of discrimination seems to have really pissed you off, and I’m not sure why that is.
You said that if the issue doesn’t “hit close to home”, then some women (i.e. me) wouldn’t think it’s worth the “time and effort to be involved.” I think it’s pretty reasonable to differentiate between fighting for changes that will make a distinct difference in the lives of all women, and worrying about things that honestly will not do that. I thought I had added another comment to your previous post, but I don’t see it there so I’ll rehash it here. I’m making a distinction between theoretical situations and real-world situations. If the ban on female memberships at Augusta was overturned tomorrow, the only people who would be affected are rich women. Not all women, just those who were in a position to seek and pay for a membership but were denied due to their gender. And as I said, that is wrong, but I wouldn’t say it’s the same thing as women being denied a house or a job bcause of their gender.
If Augusta said women couldn’t be employed at the club, if they were denying people a right to work for example, then that’s one thing. I would be the first to make some serious noise about that and offer my unbridled support for women who were being denied the right to make a living due to sexual discrimination. But the right to a golf club membership in a private organization is not something I’d go out of my way to defend in the same way. I actually think it’s more of a privilege than a right. It’s not a privilege that should be denied based on gender, I agree with you there. But the fact that wealthy women who can afford to apply aren’t allowed to be members at Augusta doesn’t stop them from having a job, or earning equal pay for the work they do, or anything else that they have a right and a need to do. Nor does it stop all women in any walk of life from doing those things. Obstacles against fair employment practices or fair pay or education or housing, based on gender discrimination, are things that are genuinely oppressive to women, not the lack of available golf club memberships.
I just want to clarify something. I don’t expect you to agree with, or even understand, my position. But while I appreciate your outrage on behalf of my gender, I reserve the right, as an actual woman, to say what I feel about this without being dismissed based on the fact that my concern doesn’t match your personal expectations of me. I know you recently posted about the whole Mary J. Blige/Burger King thing, and you made it clear that the people who took offense about that ad were not speaking for you or for all Black people. If I may quote you: “Get real “Black” folk….there are many more offensive things going on in our community to be upset over.” If I had put a comment in your blog about how you should have been more outraged, and how even one ad with possibly racist undertones is too many, and that there must be zero tolerance for that sort of thing if we want to acheive equality for all people of color, how pissed off would you be, and how quickly would you shut me down? If you did, you’d be completely in the right, because it’s not my place as a caucasian – or as anyone, really – to tell you what the right level of outrage should be for you, regarding that issue. I would think you can see how that idea applies in this discussion about Augusta. I’m a woman, and if I don’t go ballistic about it then I shouldn’t have to justify why I’m not going ballistic about it, nor should I be judged or dismissed based on the level of anger I do or do not have.
I used to be a teacher, and I used to have to give kids tests all the time. I came to realize by grading those things that people’s thoughts are not always subject to true or false valuations, where only one answer is correct. They are often fill-in-the-blank type things, with room for variations and explanations of how and why you got to the answer you did, and everyone comes to their own thoughts in their own way. I know from your posts that you are thoughtful, aware and ready to say what you feel, all of which I respect. I also think it should be OK with you if I say what I feel, as long as I have put in sufficient thought and am not spewing something out of ignorance or knee-jerk emotion. If we disagree when all’s said and done, I think that’s fine. But if my opinion being less than what you expect it to be causes an issue for you, I will respectfully refrain from posting comments that reflect opinions you may not think are the right ones for me to have. I love discussing topics that are in the news, I love having the chance to engage with people who actually think about things with a certain level of awareness and understanding (such as yourself), and I do so in part to see different sides to every story. I don’t do it to tell everyone I engage with that my position is the absolute by which all other positions must be judged. I can allow for variations in thought from people who are actually thinking and are not just being ignorant dumbasses. I hope you are open minded enough to do the same.
I may have forgotten to click approve on this comment Chris….if so that was my bad. I saw it here but thought it was already approved.
Point well taken.
Somer, not everybody understands what is at stake with the issue of excluding Women from ANYthing.
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Hello Ms. Cookie….how are you over there in Arizona?
Well said!
Thank you Ms. NCMN. Enjoy your Easter weekend.