Marriage Equality And The Black Church


By Jueseppi B.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some facts about religion and the erroneous mindset against the LGBT community: I will say this again, to all the so called fake ass Black preachers, ministers, pastors and religious leaders of the Black community, if you are using the bible to further your LGBT prejudices, stop lying to your “flock”. The Bible mentions homosexuality 4 times. Jesus never mentioned Homosexuality. God never mentions Homosexuality. But the Poor are mentioned over 300 times. Homosexuality is not a sin against God or Christ. Stop The Lying. Tell The Truth.

 

Our so called Black religious leaders who are all across the pulpits of Black churches all across America, who are standing in those pulpits, paid for by donations, tithing, offerings and building drives, from members of the LGBT community….you are lying ass fake prophets when you preach that the bible teaches that homosexuality and same sex marriage is a sin.

 

You are a lie.

 

The bible does NOT address gender specific sexual activity. Stop Lying to your “flock”.

 

MAN is the only species that discriminates against it’s own kind based on sexual orientation. God did not. Christ did not.

 

I was raised an old school Baptist Missionary Christian. My grandfather was a founder and pastor of his own Baptist Missionary church for 53 years. I have read the bible backwards & forwards several times in my life. NOT once have I read scriptures saying same sex marriage or sexual activity between same gender humans was/is a sin.

 

Let me break it down even further for you lame brain Black religious leaders. And YES, I am singling you out Black religious leaders because you should know better. Not so many years ago you fools were marching and protesting for equality. You were fighting to have the equal right to eat next to caucasians at diner counters. You were sitting in to protest the separation of the caucasian and Black races. You were marching for the right to marry a caucasian if your heart so guided you.

 

Now you attempt to use non existent bible versus to support your own prejudices? Each and every one of you fake ass prechers disgust me with your short memories.

 

 

 

The Ten Commandments say:

The Ten Commandments
Phi Tal Aug Exodus 20:1-17 Deuteronomy 5:4-21
1 1 And God spake all these words, saying, 4–5 The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire … saying,
Pre 1 2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 6 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
1 2 1 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
2 2 1 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likenessof any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
2 2 1 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
2 2 1 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
3 3 2 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
4 4 3 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 12 Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee.
4 4 3 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:
4 4 3 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in itthou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in itthou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
4 4 3 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
5 5 4 12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 16 Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
6 6 5 13 Thou shalt not kill. 17 Thou shalt not kill.
7 7 6 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 18 Neither shalt thou commit adultery.
8 8 7 15 Thou shalt not steal. 19 Neither shalt thou steal.
9 9 8 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
10 10 9 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, 21 Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour’s wife,
10 10 10 thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour’s house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thingthat is thy neighbour’s.

 

 

 

 

Not one place in the Ten Commandments does it mention same gender marriage or sexual activity.

 

Lets listen to a real down Black religious leader who remembers what civil and human rights really are all about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

brendakay538 May 14, 2:47 am

 

Amen Mr. JB!

 

So according to these phony, jackleg, pontificating “Pimps in the Pulpit” – same-sex marriage is the “real” threat to the Black community.

 

But, not the sky rocketing numbers of single parent households invariably headed up by Black mothers with little to no support by the Black fathers of these children, the ever increasing numbers of young Black men dying due to gang and gun violence, the disproportionate numbers of young Black men and women going to prison for minor crimes and offenses, the economic disparity of working Black-Americans to other ethnic groups, the HIV, diabetes, hypertension and obesity health crisis that continues to have a death hold within the Black community, the lack of Black business ownership, the shockingly poor education systems that still exist within urban areas, and the numerous voter suppressions efforts being implemented by numerous GOP/tea party governors and state officials – just to name a few things.

 

Watching video clips of these Black preachers working themselves into a lather over same-sex marriage, while collectively turning a blind eye and a silent tongue to the myriad of “REAL” issues that are literally crippling the Black community – is proof positive that the Black church is not only irrelevant, but it has lost it’s way completely.

 

 

Let the church say Amen. Ms. Brenda Kay speaks my mind!!!

 

 

 

 

 

7 Responses

  1. It really aggravates me when a group which has been denigrated, tortured, discriminated against and oppressed for hundreds of years has now decided to become the oppressor towards another group. The Black church should focus on the many troubling problems in the Black community and being Gay is not one of them. Many Young Black men need help in many ways, instead of using their energy on trying to eliminate Gay rights, they should focus that energy on going into the Black community and encouraging young Black men!

    • Deborah, the Black religious community has no right to get involved in politics, but if they do want that right to become political, then pay taxes and give up that all important tax exempt status. Otherwise shut the fuck up trying to influence politics. I was raised up in the Baptist church, my grandfather was a founder/pastor of his own Baptist church for 53 years until his death, so I know all about religion and politics from the pulpit.

      I follow POTUS Obama into hell and back, but I ain’t following a preacher across the street.

  2. As a retired Minister of the Universal Life Church I stand beside you and call “SHAME!” on these black ministers who, rather than address the REAL problems facing the poor and lower class communities today take post shots at the straw man of “gay Marriage”, a term that really does not exist except in the minds and mouths of bigots and homophobes. The term we and the law uses is “EQUAL Marriage” as we are not asking for anything that is special or unusual in any way as is implied in the derogatory and demeaning phrase “Gay Marriage”.

    My ‘wife’ (in all but legal standing) the Reverend Andrea Johnson and I have been involved in this struggle for equality as a couple for nearly 15 years now, since we became a couple. Together we helped to co-found Marriage Equality California and Marriage Equality USA. In out time together we have experienced many MANY forces that have tried to destroy out relationship and rend our bond as a married couple in twain. Many times these have come form our own government in the form of pressures over taxes, child care, threats to remove out child from our custody, and most recently as we became homeless shelters who do not recognize our being California Registered Domestic Partners and our rights as such and trying to put us into separate accommodations as single women rather than treating us like a married couple!!! In fact the shelter we are in now, the ironically named “Christian Help Center” in Vallejo, California was SO afraid we would have sexual contact between they originally put my 280lbs wife who has bad knees and a bad back in a an UPPER BUNK BED as a precaution against such a terrible thing (in their eyes) happening!!!! Now she is 55 and I am nearly 60 and we are BOTH well past menopause. Sex is about the LAST thing on our minds especially in a place with no privacy. On top of that we DO have the common courtesy (not to mention the adult ability) to be able restrain our ‘animal urges’ for God’s sake! Can you imagine anything more ludicrous or humiliating? They acted like we were ANIMALS with NO SELF CONTROL!!!!

    We are college educated women who ended up here because of the lousy economy, not because of ANY moral failing on our part! But that does not matter, they treat everyone who comes here like something they just scraped off of their shoe.

    I’m sorry… I’ve gotten off of your topic. Please drop me a note and I’ll be happy to give you PLENTY to write another blog about!

    Rev. Julie Johnson ULC (Ret.)

    • I myself was homeless for 127 days because of a divorce and a greedy ex-wife, I know first hand about homeless shelters, and the people who work and run them. It seems homeless shelter employees are the worse people imaginable for those positions.

      Yes, you are right, it is all about marriage equality and not gay this or gay that. You need to write your experiences down in a journal and post one each day.

      How soon before you and your wife are out of the shelter system?

  3. Amen Mr. JB!

    So according to these phony, jackleg, pontificating “Pimps in the Pulpit” – same-sex marriage is the “real” threat to the Black community.

    But, not the sky rocketing numbers of single parent households invariably headed up by Black mothers with little to no support by the Black fathers of these children, the ever increasing numbers of young Black men dying due to gang and gun violence, the disproportionate numbers of young Black men and women going to prison for minor crimes and offenses, the economic disparity of working Black-Americans to other ethnic groups, the HIV, diabetes, hypertension and obesity health crisis that continues to have a death hold within the Black community, the lack of Black business ownership, the shockingly poor education systems that still exist within urban areas, and the numerous voter suppressions efforts being implemented by numerous GOP/tea party governors and state officials – just to name a few things.

    Watching video clips of these Black preachers working themselves into a lather over same-sex marriage, while collectively turning a blind eye and a silent tongue to the myriad of “REAL” issues that are literally crippling the Black community – is proof positive that the Black church is not only irrelevant, but it has lost it’s way completely.

    • Oh My God….Ms. Brenda Kay…I am inserting this into the body of my post, with full credit given to you….I could not have said this any better if I tried. Thank you my sweet woman!!!

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