17 Democrats, Afraid Of The N.R.A., Vote Against AG Holder. Contempt Citation Passes 255 – 67


By Jueseppi B.

 

 

 

 

 

Today was historic in many ways, and will go down in history for two historic actions in Washington. First, The United States Supreme Court decided that the Affordable Health Care Act (ObamaCares) was indeed constitutional and will stand, as signed into law by President Barack Hussein Obama, in it’s entirety. Second, The House Of Representatives, voted 255 to 67 to cite Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. The first time in United States history an AG has been held in contempt of Congress.

 

There were 17 punk ass wimpy Democrats who crossed the party lines to join TeaTardedRepubliCANTS and vote against their fellow Democrat AG Holder. The N.R.A. (National Racist of America) sent out letters to members of Congress that they would be watching and recording whom voted with AG Holder. They further threatened that come election day, they would take action against those who didn’t vote for a contempt citation.

 

The NRA urged House members to vote for contempt, contending the administration wanted to use Operation Fast and Furious to win gun controlmeasures. Democrats who normally support the NRA but who vote against the contempt citations would lose any 100 percent ratings from the group.

 

That could affect whether they get endorsements from the powerful organization, particularly if Republican opponents surface who are strong NRA backers.

 

In the end, 17 Democrats voted yes. They included some of the most endangered incumbents, among them Representatives Larry Kissell of North Carolina, Ben Chandler of Kentucky, and Kathy Hochul of New York. Representative Joe Donnelly of Indiana, who is running for the Senate, also voted yes. The gun group Gun Owners of America released a letter this week specifically demanding a yes from Mr. Donnelly.

 

Washington D. C. – The House of Representatives on Thursday voted to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt for failing to disclose internal Justice Department documents in response to a subpoena. It was the first time in American history that Congress has imposed that sanction on a sitting member of a president’s cabinet.

 

 

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. talked to reporters in New Orleans after the House contempt vote.

 

 

The vote – 255 to 67, with one member voting present – followed an acrimonious and politically charged debate. Many Democrats walked out of the chamber in protest without voting, accusing Republicans of railroading the motion so they could inflict political damage on the Obama administration during an election year.

 

The politically and constitutionally charged dispute centers on whether the Justice Department must turn over e-mails and memorandums showing its internal deliberations last year as officials grappled with a Congressional investigation about the botched Arizona-based gunrunning investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious. President Obama has invoked executive privilege to block the subpoena.

 

In early jostling on Thursday, Republicans repeatedly invoked the death of Brian Terry, a Border Patrol agent killed in a shootout in December 2010. Two guns that had been purchased by a suspect in the gunrunning case the previous January were found near the scene.

 

“These contempt charges aren’t about politics,” said Representative Rich Nugent, Republican of Florida. “They aren’t about Attorney General Holder or President Obama or anything else but this: A man died serving his country and we have a right to know what the federal government’s hand was in that. It’s clear this country somehow played a role in his death. We need to root it out, find the cause, and make sure this never, ever happens again.”

 

Democrats dismissed the effort as an election-year witch hunt. They said previously disclosed documents and testimony had established that Fast and Furious was the work of Arizona-based law enforcement officials who were frustrated by the difficulty of bringing low-level gun cases, and they contended that Republicans were seeking to embarrass Mr. Holder for political reasons.

 

With Republicans in the majority in the House, there was little doubt that the final vote would be to cite Mr. Holder for contempt, as well as to authorize a lawsuit asking a judge to order the Justice Department to turn over the documents.

 

The only question was how many Democrats representing conservative-leaning districts would cross party lines to join in citing Mr. Holder. The National Rifle Association was pressuring them to do so, announcing that it would score the vote in its report card on how lawmakers approached Second Amendment gun rights.

 

In the end, 17 Democrats voted yes. They included some of the most endangered incumbents, among them Representatives Larry Kissell of North Carolina, Ben Chandler of Kentucky, and Kathy Hochul of New York. Representative Joe Donnelly of Indiana, who is running for the Senate, also voted yes. The gun group Gun Owners of America released a letter this week specifically demanding a yes from Mr. Donnelly.

 

The walkout echoed one by many Republicans in 2008, when the House, led by Democrats then, cited two Bush administration officials for contempt in a dispute over information related to a mass firing of United States attorneys.

 

“We’re going to make it clear we’re disappointed with the process and the superficiality with which this matter has been dealt with,” Steny H. Hoyer, Democrat of Maryland, the House minority whip, said Thursday.

 

A citation for contempt of Congress carries symbolic weight, but its practical impact is limited because the executive branch controls prosecution decisions.

 

In the 2008 case, when the parties’ positions were reversed, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey wrote a letter to Nancy Pelosi, then the House speaker, saying that prosecutors would not convene a grand jury or charge the two officials who were cited, because Mr. Bush had invoked executive privilege over the information Congress had subpoenaed.

 

The Obama Justice Department has been preparing a similarly worded letter to the current House speaker, John A. Boehner, according to officials familiar with the internal discussions. Because the contempt citation was leveled against Mr. Holder, it appeared that the letter would be signed by the deputy attorney general, James Cole, and would be sent either late Thursday or on Friday, the officials said.

 

“What Republicans are doing with this motion today is contemptible,” Ms. Pelosi said. “Even for them, it’s contemptible.”

 

Fast and Furious was an investigation by Phoenix-based agents of the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives into a gun-smuggling network that recruited low-level “straw buyers” – people without criminal records who could lawfully purchase weapons – to buy guns, which were then funneled to a Mexican drug cartel.

 

The investigation, which ran from late 2009 to early 2011, is controversial because investigators, frustrated at the difficulty of bringing cases against suspected straw buyers, are said to have used the risky tactic of “gunwalking,” meaning they sometimes failed to swiftly interdict weapons and arrest low-level suspects because they were trying to build a bigger case.

 

The suspects under scrutiny ended up purchasing about 2,000 guns, most of which are presumed to have reached drug gangs. In December 2010, two weapons that had been purchased by one of the suspected straw buyers for the network were found at the site of a shootout in which Mr. Terry was killed.

 

Information has since emerged that the Phoenix division of the A.T.F. had a dispute with Arizona-based federal prosecutors over how much evidence was necessary to bring charges in straw-purchasing cases, and that the division had used similar tactics in at least three other investigations late in the Bush administration – though none of those lost track of as many weapons as Fast and Furious.

 

Mr. Holder, a recurring target for Republicans, is associated with some of the administration’s most liberal policies on matters like gay rights, civilian trials in terrorism cases and the enforcement of civil rights laws. He has also opposed state voter photo identification requirements.

 

At a raucous rules committee meeting on Wednesday, Representative Darrell Issa, the California Republican who is leading the investigation as chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said that “during the inception and the participation through the death of Brian Terry, we have no evidence nor do we currently have strong suspicions” that Mr. Holder knew of or authorized the tactics used in the investigation.

 

Still, Mr. Issa said, he wanted to know more about whether other Justice Department officials knew or should have known about them. The contempt citation focuses on internal e-mails and memos from February to December 2011, after the operation in Arizona ended and as department officials in Washington were struggling with the Congressional investigation into it.

 

The Obama administration has declined to release the documents, invoking a form of executive privilege that protects agency deliberations from disclosure in order to preserve the candor of internal executive branch discussions.

 

There is little Supreme Court precedent to guide how far that form of the privilege, which is considered to be weaker than a form that protects communications involving the president and the White House, extends in response to a Congressional subpoena.

 

Despite Mr. Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, the Justice Department has offered to give Congress several hundred of the disputed documents if Republicans scrap the contempt recommendation. The White House on Tuesday allowed Republican staff members to scan about a dozen of them, which it portrayed as a representative sample. But the two sides failed to reach a deal.

 

 

 

Statement by White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer on Today’s Contempt Vote in the U.S. House of Representatives

At the beginning of this year, Republicans announced one of their top priorities was to investigate the Administration and to ensure that President Obama was a one-term President. Despite the major economic challenges facing the country, they talked openly about devoting taxpayer-funded, Congressional oversight resources to political purposes.

 

The problem of gunwalking was a field-driven tactic that dated back to the George W. Bush Administration, and it was this Administration’s Attorney General who ended it. Attorney General Holder has said repeatedly that fighting criminal activity along the Southwest Border – including the illegal trafficking of guns to Mexico has been is a top priority of the Department. Eric Holder has been an excellent Attorney General and just yesterday the Chairman of the House Oversight Committee acknowledged that he had no evidence – or even the suspicion – that the Attorney General knew of the misguided tactics used in this operation.

 

Yet, Republicans pushed for political theater rather than legitimate Congressional oversight. Over the past fourteen months, the Justice Department accommodated Congressional investigators, producing 7,600 pages of documents, and testifying at eleven Congressional hearings. In an act of good faith, this week the Administration made an additional offer which would have resulted in the Committee getting unprecedented access to documents dispelling any notion of an intent to mislead. But unfortunately, a politically-motivated agenda prevailed and instead of engaging with the President in efforts to create jobs and grow the economy, today we saw the House of Representatives perform a transparently political stunt.

 

 

More on this contempt vote:

GOP lawmakers cast Holder as an obstructionist in the probe of a botched operation that contributed to the death of a border patrol agent; Holder and White House officials said they have provided thousands of documents, and denounced the vote as pure politics.

 

Speaking to reporters while on a trip to New Orleans, Holder called the vote a “regrettable culmination of what became a misguided — and politically motivated — investigation during an election year.” White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer described it as “a transparently political stunt.”

 

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who initiated the contempt action as the leader of the House investigation into the federal gun trafficking operation, said the vote was “not the outcome I had sought.”

 

“It could have been avoided had Attorney General Holder actually produced the subpoenaed documents he said he would provide,” Issa said. “Claims by the Justice Department that it has fully cooperated with this investigation fall at odds with its conduct.”

 

Holder is the first sitting attorney general to be held in contempt of Congress.

 

The House vote came after a walkout by about 100 Democratic lawmakers who refused to vote, including the 42-member Congressional Black Caucus.

 

“The Republican leadership has articulated no legislative purpose for pursuing this course of action,” said a letter from the caucus to colleagues. “For these reasons, we cannot and will not participate in a vote to hold the attorney general in contempt.”

 

The House voted largely along partisan lines to hold the attorney general in both criminal and civil contempt.

 

The criminal citation will sent on to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia — who works for Holder.

 

The civil contempt allows the House to sue Holder in court in an attempt to get the documents in question.

 

Seventeen Democrats voted with Republicans in favor of contempt; just two Republicans voted in opposition.

 

In scheduling the vote, House Republican leaders criticized Holder for declining to release documents related to the botched gun-trafficking investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious.

 

“We’d really rather have the attorney general and the president work with us to get to the bottom of a very serious issue,” said House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio. “Unfortunately, they’re not willing to show the American people the truth about what happened. It’s an unfortunate place where we are.”

 

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. called the vote a “misuse of power, an abuse of power.”

 

Pelosi said the Republicans are trying to intimidate Holder and the Justice Department over some of its actions, including lawsuits against states that have passed voter ID laws.

 

“It is the wrong thing to do,” Pelosi said. “After him (Holder), who’s next?”

 

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, who has assisted the House investigation of the botched gun trafficking operation at the heart of the contempt vote, said the Justice Department is has been proven to be unreliable.

 

“The only way to try to get an accurate, complete account of what happened is to obtain every possible record and account of the facts,” Grassley said.

 

The vote took place on a momentous day, just hours after the Supreme Court upheld President Obama’s health care law.

 

Republicans say they want to know more about what went wrong with Fast and Furious, which allowed hundreds of firearms purchased at U.S. gun stores to stream into Mexico as part of a failed attempt to track weapons to Mexican drug cartel leaders. Two of the weapons traced to the operation were found at the scene of the shooting death of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

 

Holder himself has kept a low profile in recent days, although he did show up last night at the annual White House congressional picnic — an event that included some of the House Republicans who will be voting on him today.

 

In his comments today, Holder said Republicans “have focused on politics over public safety.”

 

He added: “Instead of trying to correct the problems that led to a series of flawed law enforcement operations — and instead of helping us find ways to better protect the brave law enforcement officers, like Agent Brian Terry, who keep us safe – they have led us to this unnecessary and unwarranted outcome.”

 

 

The 17 traitors who voted YES to contempt:

The Eric Holder contempt vote – 255 to 67, with one member voting present.

House Speaker and current House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, along with 107 of her Democratic colleagues walked out the House chamber in protest. That left 82 Democrats in the chamber, of whom 65 voted “no” on holding Holder in contempt of Congress, and 17 conservative Democrats voting “yes.”

The roster of Democratic shame (asterisks denote members of Blue Dog coalition):

Jason Altmire (PA-04, lost primary in PA-12) *
John Barrow (GA-12) *
Dan Boren (OK-02, retiring) *
Leonard Boswell (IA-03) *
Ben Chandler (KY-06) *
Mark Critz (PA-12)
Joe Donnelly (IN-02, running for IN-Sen) *
Kathy Hochul (NY-26)
Ron Kind (WI-03)
Larry Kissell (NC-08) *
Jim Matheson (UT-02, running in UT-04) *
Mike McIntyre (NC-07) *
Bill Owens (NY-23, running in NY-21)
Collin Peterson (MN-07) *
Nick Rahall (WV-03)
Mike Ross (AR-04, retiring) *
Tim Walz (MN-01)

 

In my UNhumble opinion, the Democratic Party would have been better served if the 108 Democrats who walked out, would have done what we Americans elected them to do…..stay on the House floor and VOTE. What exactly was accomplished by walking out in protest? Americans, especially myself, did NOT vote to elect officials who tuck tail and run when shit gets tough.

 

NO. Your 108 votes would not have swung the outcome but the final count would have sent a stronger message than no vote at all. Is everybody in Washington’s Houses of Congress stupid?

 

The 42-member Congressional Black Caucus had said before the vote that its members would walk out and refrain from voting.

 

“Contempt power should be used sparingly, carefully and only in the most egregious situations,” a letter from the caucus to House members said. “TheRepublican leadership has articulated no legislative purpose for pursuing this course of action. For these reasons, we cannot and will not participate in a vote to hold the attorney general in contempt.”

 

Members of the Hispanic, Asian Pacific American and progressive caucuses said they also would not vote.

 

Utter stupidity.

 

The contempt of Congress vote against Attorney General Eric Holder could put one of his own employees in the awkward position of dragging his boss in front of a grand jury, but experts doubt it will happen.

Typically, such a finding by the legislative branch prompts the local U.S. Attorney to move the case forward as a criminal matter. But it is unclear if that duty is required or left to the discretion of the federal prosecutor, and no attorney general has ever been held in contempt before by the full House.

 

That puts U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Ronald Machen in uncharted territory, according to Roger Pilon, vice president for legal studies at the Cato Institute, a Washington-based libertarian think tank. Does he have a choice about whether to put Holder before a grand jury, and if he chooses to, can his boss — Eric Holder — overrule him?

 

“[Machen] is obviously under the Department of Justice, therefore it’s a discretionary matter,” said Pilon. “And if Holder wants to exercise his discretion, he can do so and face the political wrath.”

 

Under the statute governing contempt of Congress findings, it is the “duty” of the U.S. Attorney “to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action,” according to “Congress’ Contempt Power: A Sketch,” a 2008 Congressional Research Service report on the issue. But since prosecutors, who serve in the executive branch, don’t take their orders from the legislative branch, “it remains unclear” whether this “duty” of the U.S. Attorney is mandatory or discretionary,” the report continues. That jibes with previous findings that also upheld prosecutorial discretion.

 

New York University Law professor Stephen Gillers said the discretion of federal prosecutors is protected by the separation of powers, and notes Ted Olsen, legal counsel to the Reagan Justice Department, concluded as much in a 1984 paper.

 

“If the U.S. Attorney believes the assertion of executive privilege is well-taken — meaning he thinks that there is no contempt because Holder had a privilege not to comply with the subpoena — he has no duty to present the matter to the grand jury,” Gillers said.

 

But Congress is not completely out of options. It could move to appoint a special prosecutor or it could seek to enforce its subpoena through an action in civil contempt — a measure the House also approved Thursday. That would leave it up to a court to determine whether the invocation of executive privilege was valid.

 

Louis Fisher, the scholar in residence at the nonprofit Constitution Project, said he doesn’t expect Holder to get involved in the process, saying it would appear “too cozy, too contrived” and politically risky.

 

“Politically and legally, it doesn’t look attractive,” Fisher told FoxNews.com. “Obviously Holder’s been under pressure for more than a year, but I think there will be an argument by the Justice Department that anytime a president authorizes something, that whomever follows the president’s orders cannot be prosecuted.”

 

 

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15 Responses

  1. I think I will post the web site on several others so they will bombard you with so much spam it sguts you down unless you man up, that is aoxymoron being you are not men but bitchespimped out by Obummer, and post my original reply.

    • Hey JohnBoy, the only reason this didn’t get sent to the garbage is so i could make you look like a fag, This is directed to John the punk who can’t read. Lesson time John Boy, This is MY blog, and I make the rules idiot. Send your dumbass cracker racist asscrack licking moron friend (You only have one) to post here, because each time a caucasian ignorant sister fucker arrives to post, MY blog numbers go sky high idgit. You white folk are so dumb you make velcro look like a Mensa member. I wouldn’t post that dumbass garbage you sent, as an intelligent comment, if your sister paid me in fresh twat.

      Now what dumbass cracker? Oh yeah….. Google guts so you can see how to spell the word.

      P.S. Nothing else your gay ass send to MY blog will even be seen by me, it’s marked for garbage the nano second it hits this blog, asswipe. I RUN THIS BLOG.

  2. Clearly you and your fellow democrat ilk who walked out on the vote have blood on your hands.

  3. “Don’t attempt to leave stupid racist comments on MY blog, they go straight into the trash can.”

    “Yes I voted for him because he is Black”

    Friggin hilarious

    • Dis you overlook these reasons as well:
      Yes I voted for him because he is intelligent.
      Yes I voted for him because he is moral.
      Yes I voted for him because he is a diplomat.
      Yes I voted for him because he is smart.
      Yes I voted for him because he is savvy.
      Yes I voted for him because he is Me.

      It is friggin hilarious when humans systematically inject stupidity into what I write. Enjoy your weekend racist fool that you are.

  4. Terrific breakdown of this fuckery, Jueseppi.

    VOTE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DINOs out of office. It seems that few if any DEMS have PBO’s back.

    Could it be, he has shone the light on these cockroaches, and their jig is being exposed.

    I have never seen any president work as hard as PBO for Americans. could it be that the MICROSCOPE is on him, to ensure the NEGRO is not as lazy as their sterotypical mindset?

    We support you, Mr. President! WE’VE.GOT.YOUR.BACK.

    • Exactly…vote every one of the 17 out of office. This is precisely why I am an ObamaCrat. Fuck the Democrats.

  5. The NRA has the balls of thos 17 congressmen in their hand…In novemeber lets take the NRA nuts (pun intended) in hand and squeeze.

  6. I am still very upset and pissed off!! i want the 17 scared asses to pay a price for being owned by the f’kn NRA while being so called Democrats, hell no they are not!!…I don’t care that the Dems walked out and refused to vote because nothing counts or matters but the final vote that makes the majority …I do however care that they could not think of nothing stronger to give to the public than some kindergarten stupid ass meaningless chant “shame on you”???WTF that just left the Right laughing at us like the asses that they sounded like…Why the hell in all the days they had knowing it could come to this could their grown official politician asses think of something more meaning for for the American people to think about, do or something…why didn’t they have some kind of rebuttal or options to announce….this is the weakest form of leaders I have seen in my life! They make me want to go down there and sit in their damn house and direct them in how to f’kn act like they have some damn game …some balls omg ….that kind of stupid weakness makes me sick…I think they are all just too damn old and settled they don’t wont to loose their seat …GIVE UP THE F’KN SEAT AND STAND UP FOR SOMETHING!!!! I am just beyond pissed….

    • On principle I am as well but nothing can come of this contempt vote. Absofuckinlutely nothing.

      • I am still more pissed about our Democrats …this is the middle of the election season and they can’t even keep it together while our President is in the freaking ring fighting for everything and everybody without much help from the Democratic Party when the hell are they going to Step the hell up!!! What are they waiting for Nov 1st !!!
        I need to go scream

      • Scream loudly.

  7. Excellent breakdown, Jueseppi. Many thanks!! Nothing will come of this attack on Holder. Absolutely nothing. We will remember those 17 traitors.

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