People Go Stark Raving Mad Over Christopher Jordan Dorner

Posted on February 12, 2013 by Jueseppi B.

By Jueseppi B.

 

 

<> on February 7, 2013 in Los Angeles, California.

 

 

 

 

I am amazed, I mean totally amazed at how dumbass Americans can be when it comes to issues concerning everyday life in America. I have been involved with a person, who I assumed was a decent person, in comments on my blog, about this lunatic, Christopher Jordan Dorner, and his methods for calling attention to his issues with the LA Police Department.

 

Following is our back & forth comments, followed by their response on their blog of their thoughts & feelings about me and my thoughts and feelings. I use this method of example because it shows just how a nation can be divided by issues…..when there should be no divide at all.

 

The following has not been edited for spelling or content and is provided just as it was typed, except the name has been replaced with XXXXX’s to protect the person’s identity…….

 

 

Back & forth comments from the blog post:

The Associated Press: Christopher Dorner Charged With Murder “Special Circumstances”.

 

 

 

From The Commentor:

 

Submitted on 2013/02/12 at 03:29

What about all the dirty racist cops in LA who have been abusing and killing innocent blacks for years. They have not been held accountable. Dorner is trying to bring attention to the ugliness that already exist, I don’t think it’s right that he is killing innocent people but he is doing what he thinks will change the racist behavior of not only the LAPD but all PD’s around this country. What he is doing is no different then what Nat Turner did when he revolted against slavery. Turner killed innocent white families. Dorner is taking a stand for what he believes in and is ready to die for the justice he hopefully obtains for innocent black men who are stopped and frisked every day in 2013 for being the wrong color. Black men are arrested, cuffed and beaten, It happens too often and this may be what is needed, an angry black man skilled in tactical forces. To demand justice in the language they understand and will pay attention to. God have mercy on those he killed and mercy on his soul.

 

 

My response:

 

Submitted on 2013/02/12 at 09:15 | In reply to XXXXXXX…..

I don’t care what Dorner is attempting to bring attention to XXXXX, ANYONE who justifies killing humans for ANY reason is insane as the person doing the killing. So what is the LAPD has killed Blacks for years, so what if racist discrimination is the hallmark of the LAPD? Killing people because he was fired/terminated/dismissed….is unacceptable. There is NO reason that makes it OK to murder cops or members of cops families.

 

This phrase…..”To demand justice in the language they understand and will pay attention to.” is something I’d expect from a racist caucasian NRAsshole gun nut.

 

It’s just wrong. I still love & respect you, but you are wrong to support or defend murder for any cause. Use the legal system to fight your cause against discrimination. Nat Turner is dead, and so shall that be the result of Dorner…..with no solution to the problems that drove him to insanity.

 

 

 

From The Commentor:

 

Submitted on 2013/02/12 at 09:52 | In reply to Jueseppi B..

I said I DON’T THINK IT’S RIGHT HE’S KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE. But if his actions bring about change it in the PD then good. From what I read he isn’t doing this solely for losing his job it is because he went up against the blue wall of silence. He is angered that the cops who kicked a man under arrest were given a slap on the wrist. He was suspended with pay other words a two week vacation for using excessive force. In Dorner’s mind, I’m sure after feeling the racism in the department himself he is doing what HE BELIEVES IS RIGHT.

 

 

 

My response:

 

Submitted on 2013/02/12 at 09:56 | In reply to XXXXXX.

So if he kills your children or grandchildren, based on this stupid comment from you…..”But if his actions bring about change in the PD then good.”…….then thats OK in your mind?

 

This conversation is finished.

 

Enjoy your day XXXXX.

 

 

 

From The Commentor:

 

Submitted on 2013/02/12 at 10:01 | In reply to Jueseppi B..

Yes it is because some people in order to bring about change some must die. Each of us has an opinion I don’t have to agree with you and you don’t have to agree with me. You have a good day too.

 

 

 

My response:

 

Submitted on 2013/02/12 at 10:16 | In reply to XXXXX.

When it’s YOUR children or grandchildren who die, then come talk to me about your opinion that “some people in order to bring about change some must die”. Talk to me then. You continue down this path, saying these stupid things, and I will lose all respect for you. As a parent, your thoughts on how little human life means to you is disgusting.

 

I ask you again, please stop commenting on this. You are way wrong.

 

 

 

Now this is from this person’s own personal blog, concerning their feelings about the exchange on my blog…..

 

“On February 3, 2013 I reached the ripe young age of 53. I am proud to say I am no longer a child. I don’t have to abide by anyone’s authority, except for the laws of the universe. I don’t even have problems with man-made laws because I don’t break them. Especially those, that coincides with the laws of nature. Such as I do not steal, I do not kill nor do I condone stealing and I especially I do not condone killing. However I can understand why humans in their sometimes limited ability to reason, may find just cause to do both. A parent with hungry children will steal to feed their babies. A person who feels they have been treated unfairly may believe they have no other recourse but to retaliate, pick up arms and kill innocent people. That does not make it right but none the less it is understandable.”

 

“This is my standpoint and as an adult, which I am, it is my right whether you agree with me or not. In every meeting of the minds there are always differing opinions. As it has been said, opinions are like ass holes everyone has one. There are some ass holes that have opinions and do not respect your right to yours and resort to calling you stupid and dismissing you, if your views differ from theirs. That is wrong and a total lack of respect. This is a form of bullying.”

 
“In our universe there are balancing forces. Where there is darkness there is light. Where there is joy there is sadness. Where there is health there is sickness. Where there is ugly there is beauty. Where there is negative there is positive. To find peace inside ourselves we have to respect these laws of nature and understand the opposing opinions. Sometimes we must agree to disagree. To say I have lost respect for you because you have a thought that is contrary to mine is ignorant. It is one-sided and limiting mine and your intelligence.”

 

This is a complex issue and it should not be a complex issue. Opinions are fine and dandy, but when your opinions are that breaking the laws of the land, and killing humans because you’re pissed off….is acceptable…well that is stupid.

 

I’ll repeat myself…when you take the law into your own hands and murder innocent people because you are upset and pissed off that you got terminated from a job you should never have had in the first place……you are indeed wrong. Any critical thinking person that uses common sense, will never connect or associate slavery, Nat Turner, civil rights and oppression to what Christopher Jordan Dorner is doing.

 

The civil rights movement, the fight against slavery, and common decency has no connection to this fake ass Robin Hood wanna be. Intelligence is something that we all have access to, whether we choose to make use of our own inherent intelligence is really up to us.

 

This person is entitled to their opinions, thoughts and ideas.

 

Just not on my blog, or in my universe.

 

Christopher Jordan Dorner is wrong. He is a typical insane criminal. No different than Adam Lanza, James Holmes or Jared Lee Loughner.

 

He is NOT out there fighting for Black American civil rights. He is NOT defending the hundreds of Black men who have been discriminated against or killed by the LAPD.

 

Christopher Jordan Dorner is a cold blooded killer with expert & marksman rankings from the U.S. Military.

 

Be very careful.

 

 

 

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Django Unchained: A Film Goer’s Take On The Tarantino Classic

Posted on January 4, 2013 by Jueseppi B.

By CADESERTVOICE, A Guest Writer & Movie Goer.

 

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The following views & opinions are those of CADESERTVOICE….AND ME.

 

cadesertvoice Submitted on 2013/01/04 at 22:29

 

“I just walked in the door after seeing the movie. I highly recommend it. I will be buying the dvd when it comes out so I can see it whenever I want to. I appreciate your assessment…it’s right on target.

 

The word nigger was appropriate and the over play on the word was intentional because that’s all they called slaves back in the day…nigger this and nigger that. Fetch me some water, nigger. All the way through to today, the word nigger is still used in white circles. Yeah, you better believe that because it’s true. And the way blacks are STILL being treated says if they aren’t saying it, they’re thinking it. But as you said, Jueseppi, it’s only a word.

 

And I am more concerned about the racism still going on, more blacks in prison than whites for petty crimes in comparison, difficulty getting a job, inability to get loans, and getting loans at higher rates of interest. There’s a modern day slavery going on and it’s in high gear. On and on it goes.

 

While this was fiction, art imitates life. This was the first movie to show in this way the brutal whipping of slaves, dogs eating slaves, throwing slaves in holes for punishment like animals, cutting off slave penises, burning slaves like cattle, letting them fight to the brutal kill like pit bulls, and uncle toms (played perfectly by Samuel L.).

 

That is the message that should stay with viewers more than anything else: the gross, ungodly, horrendous horrors endured by the slaves for hundreds of years. I’ve seen whites laugh at blacks for fear of water and dogs. You saw why blacks are afraid of dogs. Did you know whites fed black babies to alligators to lure the gators on land so they could kill them for their skins?

 

Tarantino’s brilliant movie did what Tim Wise and many authorities on racism could not do: he showed in the most shocking fashion what slavery and racism has done to African Americans and brings to mind the dynamics of fears, hate, anger and psychological trauma that has been done to these people and the nation. When you consider that racism is alive and thriving today, it’s as if slavery never went away and the wounds have never healed.

 

It also shows the legacy of lust for blood, domination, cruelty, power and more in certain whites, and how that filters throughout society and molds a consciousness from the very rich at the top, to the poorest of poor at the bottom. Our society today STILL is affected by that sick consciousness, and we see it played out every single day in politics, media, employers, family, churches, everywhere. When Django blew up that house of horrors at the end of the movie, I could not help but wish we could do the same with controlling faction of this nation.

 

As I walked out of the theater tonight, I listened to hear what viewers were thinking. One white man told his family, “I’ll never seen another Tarantino movie again. Too much blood for me!”

 

I could only wonder how many westerns he’s seen over the years with Indians getting killed, how many Clint Eastwood and Bruce Willis movies he’s seen and sat through all the blood and killing.

 

This movie’s time has come.”

 

Thank you CADESERTVOICE for your honest assessment of Django Unchained, and how it relates to America’s racist ideology today.

 

This sentence from your comment says it all for me….”As I walked out of the theater tonight, I listened to hear what viewers were thinking. One white man told his family, “I’ll never seen another Tarantino movie again. Too much blood for me!”

 

This caucasian is actually saying the movie shamed his racist ass into facing his own racist beliefs head on, he was forced to look into the mirror of self hatred and acknowledge his very own deep seated fears of evil wrong doing by his race and culture, against  fellow human beings of the human race. He looked into the abyss of his soul & heart and hated what he saw.

 

I too saw the movie this afternoon….I’m a matinée man, films today just cost way too much to go see them after the sun goes down.

 

You are absofuckinlutely correct CADESERTVOICE…Django Unchained is a film whose time has come.

 

Quentin Tarantino had the balls to make Django Unchained, Thank you Mr. Tarantino.

 

Spike Lee had the balls to criticize Django Unchained.

 

 

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Slavery By Another Name: Book & PBS Program

Posted on February 13, 2012 by Jueseppi B.

By Jueseppi B.

The Book

Slavery by Another Name:
The Re-Enslavement of Black People in America from the Civil War to World War II

Author: Douglas A. Blackmon
Publisher: Doubleday, $29.95 (512p) ISBN 978-0-385-50625-0
On Sale: March 25, 2008

The Age of Neo-Slavery

In this groundbreaking historical expose, Douglas A. Blackmon brings to light one of the most shameful chapters in American history—when a cynical new form of slavery was resurrected from the ashes of the Civil War and re-imposed on hundreds of thousands of African-Americans until the dawn of World War II.

Under laws enacted specifically to intimidate blacks, tens of thousands of African Americans were arbitrarily arrested, hit with outrageous fines, and charged for the costs of their own arrests. With no means to pay these ostensible “debts,” prisoners were sold as forced laborers to coal mines, lumber camps, brickyards, railroads, quarries and farm plantations. Thousands of other African Americans were simply seized by southern landowners and compelled into years of involuntary servitude. Government officials leased falsely imprisoned blacks to small-town entrepreneurs, provincial farmers, and dozens of corporations—including U.S. Steel Corp.—looking for cheap and abundant labor. Armies of “free” black men labored without compensation, were repeatedly bought and sold, and were forced through beatings and physical torture to do the bidding of white masters for decades after the official abolition of American slavery.

The neoslavery system exploited legal loopholes and federal policies which discouraged prosecution of whites for continuing to hold black workers against their wills. As it poured millions of dollars into southern government treasuries, the new slavery also became a key instrument in the terrorization of African Americans seeking full participation in the U.S. political system.

Based on a vast record of original documents and personal narratives, SLAVERY BY ANOTHER NAME unearths the lost stories of slaves and their descendants who journeyed into freedom after the Emancipation Proclamation and then back into the shadow of involuntary servitude. It also reveals the stories of those who fought unsuccessfully against the re-emergence of human labor trafficking, the modern companies that profited most from neoslavery, and the system’s final demise in the 1940s, partly due to fears of enemy propaganda about American racial abuse at the beginning of World War II.

SLAVERY BY ANOTHER NAME is a moving, sobering account of a little-known crime against African Americans, and the insidious legacy of racism that reverberates today.

PBS Film

Watch the broadcast of the new documentary film, Slavery by Another Name, on all PBS stations, Feb. 13, at 9 p.m. Eastern, 8 p.m., Central. If you missed the premier last night on PBS, I suggest you try to purchase the DVD.

Directed by Sam Pollard, produced by Catherine Allan and Douglas Blackmon, written by Sheila Curran Bernard,  the tpt National Productions project is based on the 2009 Pulitzer Prize-winning book by Blackmon. Slavery by Another Name challenges one of our country’s most cherished assumptions: the belief that slavery ended with Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation of 1863. The documentary recounts how in the years following the Civil War, insidious new forms of forced labor emerged in the American South, keeping hundreds of thousands of African Americans in bondage, trapping them in a brutal system that would persist until the onset of World War II.

Based on Blackmon’s research, Slavery by Another Name spans eight decades, from 1865 to 1945, revealing the interlocking forces in both the South and the North that enabled this “neoslavery” to begin and persist.  Using archival photographs and dramatic re-enactments filmed on location in Alabama and Georgia, it tells the forgotten stories of both victims and perpetrators of neoslavery and includes interviews with their descendants living today.  The program also features interviews with Douglas Blackmon and with leading scholars of this period. Major funding for Slavery by Another Name is provided by the National Endowment for the Humanities, W.K. Kellogg Foundation, The Coca-Cola Company and the CPB/PBS Diversity and Innovation Fund. PBS broadcast is targeted for early 2012.

The project includes:

  • A 90-minute national PBS prime-time television documentary, produced and directed by noted filmmaker Sam Pollard (Eyes on the Prize, The Blues, When the Levees Broke) to be broadcast nationwide in the fall of 2012.
  • An online interactive site on pbs.org that will be not only a destination for sharing stories gathered in partnership with the oral history organization, StoryCorps, but also the preeminent resource online for people wanting to learn more about this little-known history.
  • Educational outreach, in conjunction with outreach specialists 2MPower Media and content experts at The Birmingham Civil Rights Institute, providing a standards-based curriculum for high school educators and students nationwide, along with a college unit on the economics of slavery and a Viewer’s Guide for use by families and community groups.

Media Staff

Sam PollardProducer/Director
Sam Pollard

Sam Pollard is the editor of the Edward Norton feature length documentary, By The People: The Election of Barack Obama, airing on HBO. He served as documentary producer of Blackside production’s Eyes on the Prize II: American at the Racial Crosswords, and Co-Executive Producer/Producer of I’ll Make Me a World: Stories of African-American Artists and Community. He directed Zora Neale Hurston: Jump at the Sun for American Masters. Pollard has also worked extensively on Spike Lee’s films, including When the Levees Broke. His productions have won multiple Emmy Awards, George Foster Peabody Awards, the George Polk Award, the NAACP Image Award, and the Pare Lorentz Award from the International Documentary Association. Pollard is also a Professor of Film Studies at the New York University Tisch School of the Arts.

Catherine AllanExecutive Producer
Catherine Allan

Catherine Allan is a Senior Executive Producer at tpt National Productions. Her executive producing credits include two Peabody Award-winning productions: Liberty! The American Revolution and the feature-length documentary, Hoop Dreams, named the number one documentary of all time by the International Documentary Association. Other productions include the Emmy Award-winning Benjamin Franklin; Alexander Hamilton and Kinsey for American Experience; the Cine Golden Eagle winner Continental Harmony; The New Medicine; and Jane Goodall: Reason for Hope. Allan’s most recent project is a 90-minute documentary for PBS on Dolley Madison.

Douglas BlackmonCo-Executive Producer
Douglas Blackmon

Douglas Blackmon is the Atlanta Bureau Chief for the Wall Street Journal. Prior to joining the Journal, Blackmon was a reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, where he covered race and politics, and special assignments including the fall of the Berlin Wall and the civil war in the former Yugoslavia. In 2001, he revealed in the Journal how U.S. Steel Corporation relied on forced black laborers in Alabama coal mines in the early 20th century, an article which led to his first book, Slavery By Another Name. His article on U.S. Steel was included in the 2003 edition of Best Business Stories. The Journal’s coverage of Hurricane Katrina received a special National Headliner award in 2006.

I remember when the mini-series “Roots” by Mr. Alex Haley was released to the small screen. I anticipate this almost as much. The impact should be just as vital to understanding race relations in America.

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